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  1. Are you saying That Jesus was not eternal? You may be only about half right on this attack on the Trinity. I have found Dr. Michael Heisers book the Unseen Realm very enlightening and you should probably give it a read. His claim in the book is that Jesus is the Angel of Yahweh that was in the Burning Bush and that their are two Yahweh figures in the Old Testament one visible and one invisible. Yes it is true that God the father has a family and that is some what of a mystery to us. Angels in the Old Testaement are called Eloheim which is equivelent to the term God because God is also called Eloheim. The gods of the nations are condemn for their mismanagement of the nations is Psalm 82. The Eloheim (sons of God) rebelled against God the creator and came down before the flood and cohabitated with Human Women, which is became the god’s our ancestors worshipped. After the tower of Babel rebellion God disinherets the nations and puts them under the rule of the Eloheim (gods of the nations that Israel are commanded not to worship. I think you raise some interesting questions but you may have missed some important points. The Angel of Yahweh in the Old testament is worlship so their may be more mystery here and dogmatic conclusions may not be valid.

    1. I am saying exactly what the Bible says…. God is the Father, Jesus is His Son.

    2. Yes, Jesus is eternal. He was always there! What makes you think I don’t believe that?

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